First off, I just wanted to say a huge THANK YOU to everyone who donated to our campaign. I feel very humbled by the fact that we were able to raise $5450, which had a massive impact on our financial situation.
The last few months have been busy with our noses to the grindstone. We were able to pay off Terra's van as planned, and made small strides despite some dental needs that came up. But, that all changes with the campaign :)
Now for the fun bits:
We were able to pay off three major medical debts and a few minor bills. In all, these bills represent $450/month of expense that is GONE. This gives us a HUGE amount of breathing room, and allowed me to pull Terra's check out of the budget so that it is finally extra money. This extra can go for extra snowball money or fun money without impacting the established get-out-of debt plan -- which makes me very happy :). Words cannot describe the relief I'm feeling at this point.
However, this isn't the best part. I recently discovered that Aetna is reprocessing all of our Vivaglobin claims as a pharmacy benefit instead of a major medical benefit. Translation? That means that instead of each dose costing $800 per kid per month (then subject to deductibles and 80/20), each dose is $65 flat. $65!! Since Aetna's pharmacy was one of the three major debts we paid off with the campaign, we will be getting approximately $1200-$1500 back from Aetna. THIS IS HUGE :)
I'll use this to pay off the remaining balances on some of the smaller bills and use the rest to continue walking up our debt snowball. Sure, our deductible will be replaced, but we are in a pretty good place now and that's ok :).
THANK YOU again to everyone who has donated and who has been praying for our family. You can still donate at From The Heart by specifying our family in the notes, OR you could go see what other great families are being sponsored and help meet their needs :).
Showing posts with label medical bills. Show all posts
Showing posts with label medical bills. Show all posts
Friday, June 24, 2011
Wednesday, February 16, 2011
And So It Begins....
It is February 16th, and already we have reached that magical time where our $3500 medical deductible has been met, our $1000 HealthFund is gone, our $2000 Flex Spending Account is gone, and we are now in our 80/20 period. That being said, we still haven't got all the bills yet for the $3500 already incurred :( (minus $1000 for the HealthFund). Dealing with THAT will be no fun.
From here on out, the girls meds should cost us around $400 a month. The thing I'm MORE worried about is the fact that around $2500 is owed to Aetna's pharmacy. I know they allow payment plans, but the little bit of info I've got so far indicates that those plans are spread over a term of around 3-5 months. That means we could be paying $600 per month to catch up, on top of the new $400 per month. Needless to say, that's not going to work :). Now the worry bit -- are they going to withhold their meds until we pay off the existing balance? I would HOPE not, but who knows with the state of the medical industry these days. That being said, I'll post more when I know more.
On to Happier news.
Terra's van will be completely paid off by the end of March (or the beginning if I can work it in) about 6 months ahead of schedule. Next up, Piper's hospital bill from all of our Cincinnati trips last year will be done in another 4 months (around July). After that, Makenna's Cincinnati bill should be knocked out in another 4 months (around November). Looking further out, my car should be paid off about this time next year - about 5 months ahead of schedule. THAT is the debt snowball in action :). Four medium sized debts being knocked out as you compound their payments.
In all, that represents around $7000 worth of debt. It's not as aggressive as I would like, but well, we have some pretty serious new expenses to deal with :). On the bright side, none of this is including Terra's income, so I should be able to accelerate things depending on how many hours she can get in the next few months.
The girls' doctor is also going to switch their meds, so I'm hoping the new one is somewhat cheaper :). I'll let you know how that goes later.
From here on out, the girls meds should cost us around $400 a month. The thing I'm MORE worried about is the fact that around $2500 is owed to Aetna's pharmacy. I know they allow payment plans, but the little bit of info I've got so far indicates that those plans are spread over a term of around 3-5 months. That means we could be paying $600 per month to catch up, on top of the new $400 per month. Needless to say, that's not going to work :). Now the worry bit -- are they going to withhold their meds until we pay off the existing balance? I would HOPE not, but who knows with the state of the medical industry these days. That being said, I'll post more when I know more.
On to Happier news.
Terra's van will be completely paid off by the end of March (or the beginning if I can work it in) about 6 months ahead of schedule. Next up, Piper's hospital bill from all of our Cincinnati trips last year will be done in another 4 months (around July). After that, Makenna's Cincinnati bill should be knocked out in another 4 months (around November). Looking further out, my car should be paid off about this time next year - about 5 months ahead of schedule. THAT is the debt snowball in action :). Four medium sized debts being knocked out as you compound their payments.
In all, that represents around $7000 worth of debt. It's not as aggressive as I would like, but well, we have some pretty serious new expenses to deal with :). On the bright side, none of this is including Terra's income, so I should be able to accelerate things depending on how many hours she can get in the next few months.
The girls' doctor is also going to switch their meds, so I'm hoping the new one is somewhat cheaper :). I'll let you know how that goes later.
Thursday, November 18, 2010
Tis the Season
Tis the Season... well, it is according to the stores anyhow. Since before Halloween there has been Christmas stuff out. Anyone listening to Christmas music yet? :).
Christmas is a time where a lot of people can get into trouble. You want to do everything you can for people you care about, but your heart usually gets bigger than your wallet. Instead of stopping, most people just charge it -- and before you know it you end up getting yourself a big nasty bill for Christmas.
For the last couple years now I've been doing a cash only Christmas. The first year was a bit of a train wreck due to medical bills and improper budgeting, but things have been getting a bit better as I get more experience. Even last year, I couldn't do as much as I wanted due to medical bills, but I used those two experiences to make this year spectacular.
I had planned way ahead of time and got all the Christmas money put back for the girls this year in October. Words cannot describe the feeling of satisfaction I had when I deposited the funds into that account. No more do I need to worry about where the money will come from. No more do I need to worry about if I can get things for the girls . No more do I need to worry about the aftermath of how to pay for a debt fueled sea of disaster. It is all taken care of -- and it's going to be a blast to do the shopping.
I've felt pretty bad about the last couple years just for the fact the kids got screwed because of my poor planning and not being able to handle the financial maelstrom we were handed. Not this year though. I'm making up for those lean years and then some. I know they are too young to really know or care, but this is something I feel I really need to do for them. They have been through so much in their short little lives, I want Christmas to be spectacular for them this year.
Speaking of spectacular, we now have four debts about to fall out in the next 6 months (all pretty much at the same time). The combined payments for all of these are right around $600 a month. That's $600 I get back almost immediately as they all drop out within months of each other. That's huge, and will go a long way in bringing the next monster down. One of those four is the Van. It only has about $1000 left, and will be a big psychological win for us (actually something directly tangible for payments).
The only thing that could be a sore spot is medical expenses for the first part of next year. Our insurance resets, so we are going to be having to pay for the girls medication (retails at $2000 a month) until all the deductibles and out of pocket expenses are hit. Thankfully there is a non-profit that is going to be working with us next year to help raise funds to offset some of these expenses. "From the Heart" is a organization started by a friend of ours with the goal of helping families in need of care they cannot necessarily afford. Go find it on Facebook or Twitter and follow. It is a great organization with a good heart and very noble goal. They will also appreciate any donations you want to contribute for their sponsored families :)
I guess my only parting words of wisdom would be to not charge Christmas this year. Sure, it may be hard, but you'll be thanking me in January when that bill doesn't arrive in your mailbox :).
Christmas is a time where a lot of people can get into trouble. You want to do everything you can for people you care about, but your heart usually gets bigger than your wallet. Instead of stopping, most people just charge it -- and before you know it you end up getting yourself a big nasty bill for Christmas.
For the last couple years now I've been doing a cash only Christmas. The first year was a bit of a train wreck due to medical bills and improper budgeting, but things have been getting a bit better as I get more experience. Even last year, I couldn't do as much as I wanted due to medical bills, but I used those two experiences to make this year spectacular.
I had planned way ahead of time and got all the Christmas money put back for the girls this year in October. Words cannot describe the feeling of satisfaction I had when I deposited the funds into that account. No more do I need to worry about where the money will come from. No more do I need to worry about if I can get things for the girls . No more do I need to worry about the aftermath of how to pay for a debt fueled sea of disaster. It is all taken care of -- and it's going to be a blast to do the shopping.
I've felt pretty bad about the last couple years just for the fact the kids got screwed because of my poor planning and not being able to handle the financial maelstrom we were handed. Not this year though. I'm making up for those lean years and then some. I know they are too young to really know or care, but this is something I feel I really need to do for them. They have been through so much in their short little lives, I want Christmas to be spectacular for them this year.
Speaking of spectacular, we now have four debts about to fall out in the next 6 months (all pretty much at the same time). The combined payments for all of these are right around $600 a month. That's $600 I get back almost immediately as they all drop out within months of each other. That's huge, and will go a long way in bringing the next monster down. One of those four is the Van. It only has about $1000 left, and will be a big psychological win for us (actually something directly tangible for payments).
The only thing that could be a sore spot is medical expenses for the first part of next year. Our insurance resets, so we are going to be having to pay for the girls medication (retails at $2000 a month) until all the deductibles and out of pocket expenses are hit. Thankfully there is a non-profit that is going to be working with us next year to help raise funds to offset some of these expenses. "From the Heart" is a organization started by a friend of ours with the goal of helping families in need of care they cannot necessarily afford. Go find it on Facebook or Twitter and follow. It is a great organization with a good heart and very noble goal. They will also appreciate any donations you want to contribute for their sponsored families :)
I guess my only parting words of wisdom would be to not charge Christmas this year. Sure, it may be hard, but you'll be thanking me in January when that bill doesn't arrive in your mailbox :).
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
Aetna, why do you hate your customers?
While being busy trying to pay off past medical bills, I have been somewhat tuning out of my mounting new bills. After taking down four of our old ones (only one left!!), I started to turn my attention to the new ones. We have already hit our out of pocket max, so all of the new charges from Cincinnati from here on out will be covered (those Aetna pays for) so I've set up payments for what we incurred to hit our max.
This, however, is the proper start of my rant. A little back story if you will....
Our daughters have been fighting infection for the last two years. Serious infections. You get a cold and have pneumonia in three days kind of infections. You have eight ear infections in six months kind of infections. You have to go to infectious disease doctors to get special antibiotics because run-of-the-mill drugs don't cut it anymore kind of infections. You have to take a low dose antibiotic just to try to function in society infections (and still get above mentioned infections).
Throughout this time, Aetna was actually being awesome about things. They were covering the plethora of doctors and specialist visits at the said co-pays and all of the medication. Granted, I incurred nearly $17,000 in out of pocket expenses during those two years, but we were keeping our girls relatively healthy (even though we couldn't really take them out into the public). We were seeing specialist after specialist and doctor after doctor until we finally exhausted all of the resources in Indianapolis. We knew they both have a compromised immune system, but no one could tell us what was wrong or how to actually treat it. So, we just kept submitting all the claims and visits to Aetna and went on our merry way, thinking we were going to have to keep the kids in a bubble their entire lives.
Our infectious disease doctor referred us to a pair of immunology specialists at the Cincinnati Children's hospital, so we made an appointment, packed up the kids and headed out.
About all that we knew for certain about the girls is that their MBL levels were abnormally low or non-existent. This is important because this protein plays a big role in letting your body know there is an infection. Anyhow, after meeting with the new doctor, he said that the MBL was concerning, but shouldn't be causing this (based on other cases he's worked on). Twelve vials of blood from each kid later, we had a large panel of tests to try to figure out what is wrong.
After a few weeks, and after Aetna gladly paid for the facility, doctor's fees, and labs (aside from my co-insurance), we went back to discuss the results. At this point, they were still in the dark, but it is obvious they have something rare and it will take a lot more research. In the mean time, we decided to switch their prophylactic antibiotic to something stronger to help keep of infection. Like clockwork, the girls got sick again on the new antibiotic (our typical cycle was every two weeks). After consulting with Dr. Kumar, he was very concerned that they still got sick, and decided to break out the big guns to try to at least get them healthy while we tried to figure this out. He decided to switch them to Immunoglobulin G.
Our rep at the hospital called Aetna to get things pre-approved and to make sure that the treatment was covered and got the all clear. She called us up after that was settled and made our first appointment to come in. So, on our third trip to Cincinnati from Indianapolis we got our first infusion (sub Q, in the belly). We were simply waiting on Aetna to approve a home health care company to supply us with the meds and pump so we could do it at home. We figured we would have to come back maybe once more before this was taken care of, but little did we know Aetna in reality hates their customers.
We made a fourth trip, then a fifth trip, then found out the bombshell -- Aetna had denied the treatment for the girls. The thing is, after getting these treatments for three weeks, the girls had shown a dramatic improvement. They were playing, and I mean they were playing HARD. They probably never felt this good in their sick little lives, and actually got over a cold on their own WITHOUT any extra medication. This miracle drug had completely changed their quality of life, and Aetna was wanting to take that all away.
Our Doctor filed an appeal on the decision, but wanted to keep treating the girls because it was obviously working. Thankfully, he has the hospital holding the charges on the medication until this gets straightened out. Aetna has up to 30 days to respond to an appeal, so we waited, and kept driving back and forth from Indianapolis to Cincinnati to get life changing treatments for our girls.
After the 30 days had passed, Aetna finally responded -- with another denial stating that they don't cover IgG treatments for what the doctor had said he was treating them for because it was "experimental". Obviously, the experiment worked because our kids were finally able to be kids. He called and talked to the director of Aetna and found that there was a very specific black and white list of what they approved this medication for. The problem is, we don't have a diagnosis yet -- we just know the immune system is involved. So, he worked up a second appeal and drew more labs to get more ammunition.
Keep in mind, Aetna has been happily processing and paying for all of the facility and doctor fees this entire time, but just refuses to pay for the medication. If they won't pay for the treatment, why are they paying for the facility FOR the treatment? Not to mention that we haven't been to the pediatrician's office for 3 months (instead of every two weeks like before).
Anyhow, another 30 days went by and Aetna responded to the second appeal by sending me a letter. This time, their response was that they couldn't process the appeal because Dr. Kumar wasn't "authorized" to act on our daughters' behalf. HE IS THEIR FREAKING DOCTOR! What more authorization do you need?? So, today I faxed the release in so that their own doctor can see their medical information and act on their behalf.
So, we get to keep going back to get the treatments that actually give our kids a reasonable quality of life until Aetna decides to stop jerking us around. I figured up that every trip costs us nearly $100 in gas and food -- not to mention the fact that I have to work over during the week to make up for the day I have to be out of the office. Between the growing financial burden this is putting on us and the added stress of running so hard, it is amazing I haven't completely lost it yet.
Without insurance, the treatments cost roughly $1000 per kid per week -- so $8666 a month or $104,000 per year. I don't make nearly that much, so there is no way I can pay for this treatment let alone afford to live. Sadly, the girls' quality of life rests soundly upon Aetna's shoulders. If they deny the treatments, they are subjecting our girls to a life of infection, sickness, and being socially isolated. Aetna hates their customers, and apparently hates innocent little girls that just want a chance at a normal life, which this medication gives them.
I can't fight Aetna directly, but I can at least put our story out there so that others can see what kind of company they truly are. Far too often, people with similar conditions have the trouble getting the life changing medications they need. IgG is just one that I know of that people have to fight for. It is incomprehensible to me that people have to fight for IgG given the dramatic effects it has on those who need it.
For a point of reference, this picture represents all of the medications that my daughters (2 and 4) were on for the 6 months prior to starting IgG. We have only had to take over the counter allergy meds since.
I ask that you share our story with anyone you can. Hopefully this will help others in the future with similar battles.
This, however, is the proper start of my rant. A little back story if you will....
Our daughters have been fighting infection for the last two years. Serious infections. You get a cold and have pneumonia in three days kind of infections. You have eight ear infections in six months kind of infections. You have to go to infectious disease doctors to get special antibiotics because run-of-the-mill drugs don't cut it anymore kind of infections. You have to take a low dose antibiotic just to try to function in society infections (and still get above mentioned infections).
Throughout this time, Aetna was actually being awesome about things. They were covering the plethora of doctors and specialist visits at the said co-pays and all of the medication. Granted, I incurred nearly $17,000 in out of pocket expenses during those two years, but we were keeping our girls relatively healthy (even though we couldn't really take them out into the public). We were seeing specialist after specialist and doctor after doctor until we finally exhausted all of the resources in Indianapolis. We knew they both have a compromised immune system, but no one could tell us what was wrong or how to actually treat it. So, we just kept submitting all the claims and visits to Aetna and went on our merry way, thinking we were going to have to keep the kids in a bubble their entire lives.
Our infectious disease doctor referred us to a pair of immunology specialists at the Cincinnati Children's hospital, so we made an appointment, packed up the kids and headed out.
About all that we knew for certain about the girls is that their MBL levels were abnormally low or non-existent. This is important because this protein plays a big role in letting your body know there is an infection. Anyhow, after meeting with the new doctor, he said that the MBL was concerning, but shouldn't be causing this (based on other cases he's worked on). Twelve vials of blood from each kid later, we had a large panel of tests to try to figure out what is wrong.
After a few weeks, and after Aetna gladly paid for the facility, doctor's fees, and labs (aside from my co-insurance), we went back to discuss the results. At this point, they were still in the dark, but it is obvious they have something rare and it will take a lot more research. In the mean time, we decided to switch their prophylactic antibiotic to something stronger to help keep of infection. Like clockwork, the girls got sick again on the new antibiotic (our typical cycle was every two weeks). After consulting with Dr. Kumar, he was very concerned that they still got sick, and decided to break out the big guns to try to at least get them healthy while we tried to figure this out. He decided to switch them to Immunoglobulin G.
Our rep at the hospital called Aetna to get things pre-approved and to make sure that the treatment was covered and got the all clear. She called us up after that was settled and made our first appointment to come in. So, on our third trip to Cincinnati from Indianapolis we got our first infusion (sub Q, in the belly). We were simply waiting on Aetna to approve a home health care company to supply us with the meds and pump so we could do it at home. We figured we would have to come back maybe once more before this was taken care of, but little did we know Aetna in reality hates their customers.
We made a fourth trip, then a fifth trip, then found out the bombshell -- Aetna had denied the treatment for the girls. The thing is, after getting these treatments for three weeks, the girls had shown a dramatic improvement. They were playing, and I mean they were playing HARD. They probably never felt this good in their sick little lives, and actually got over a cold on their own WITHOUT any extra medication. This miracle drug had completely changed their quality of life, and Aetna was wanting to take that all away.
Our Doctor filed an appeal on the decision, but wanted to keep treating the girls because it was obviously working. Thankfully, he has the hospital holding the charges on the medication until this gets straightened out. Aetna has up to 30 days to respond to an appeal, so we waited, and kept driving back and forth from Indianapolis to Cincinnati to get life changing treatments for our girls.
After the 30 days had passed, Aetna finally responded -- with another denial stating that they don't cover IgG treatments for what the doctor had said he was treating them for because it was "experimental". Obviously, the experiment worked because our kids were finally able to be kids. He called and talked to the director of Aetna and found that there was a very specific black and white list of what they approved this medication for. The problem is, we don't have a diagnosis yet -- we just know the immune system is involved. So, he worked up a second appeal and drew more labs to get more ammunition.
Keep in mind, Aetna has been happily processing and paying for all of the facility and doctor fees this entire time, but just refuses to pay for the medication. If they won't pay for the treatment, why are they paying for the facility FOR the treatment? Not to mention that we haven't been to the pediatrician's office for 3 months (instead of every two weeks like before).
Anyhow, another 30 days went by and Aetna responded to the second appeal by sending me a letter. This time, their response was that they couldn't process the appeal because Dr. Kumar wasn't "authorized" to act on our daughters' behalf. HE IS THEIR FREAKING DOCTOR! What more authorization do you need?? So, today I faxed the release in so that their own doctor can see their medical information and act on their behalf.
So, we get to keep going back to get the treatments that actually give our kids a reasonable quality of life until Aetna decides to stop jerking us around. I figured up that every trip costs us nearly $100 in gas and food -- not to mention the fact that I have to work over during the week to make up for the day I have to be out of the office. Between the growing financial burden this is putting on us and the added stress of running so hard, it is amazing I haven't completely lost it yet.
Without insurance, the treatments cost roughly $1000 per kid per week -- so $8666 a month or $104,000 per year. I don't make nearly that much, so there is no way I can pay for this treatment let alone afford to live. Sadly, the girls' quality of life rests soundly upon Aetna's shoulders. If they deny the treatments, they are subjecting our girls to a life of infection, sickness, and being socially isolated. Aetna hates their customers, and apparently hates innocent little girls that just want a chance at a normal life, which this medication gives them.
I can't fight Aetna directly, but I can at least put our story out there so that others can see what kind of company they truly are. Far too often, people with similar conditions have the trouble getting the life changing medications they need. IgG is just one that I know of that people have to fight for. It is incomprehensible to me that people have to fight for IgG given the dramatic effects it has on those who need it.
For a point of reference, this picture represents all of the medications that my daughters (2 and 4) were on for the 6 months prior to starting IgG. We have only had to take over the counter allergy meds since.
I ask that you share our story with anyone you can. Hopefully this will help others in the future with similar battles.
Monday, April 26, 2010
Busy six months
It has been a busy six months in our household. I had canceled our credit cards and we were going without, we had a cash only Christmas, AND I was able to pay off two large debts. Lots of sacrifices were made to make this happen, bit it was all worth it. We sold a car and replaced it with a cheap cash-only alternative, canceled all extra utilities, didn't go out, didn't eat out, worked extra jobs and finally pulled through a big win. Granted, we still have a ways to go, but are in a much better position than we were six months ago.
The biggest lesson learned - FILE YOUR HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION! I waited too long to do this and got burned by my mortgage payment for the last year. That, however, has changed and our new payment is $300 less than it was before, freeing up that much more in the budget for the debt snowball. It is probably good timing because of the ongoing medical treatments the girls will need, but with insurance hopefully covering everything, we should be in good shape.
The next thing on the radar is a couple small medical debts and the Van being paid off. I'll be sure to update this more frequently as we knock down more debts. It CAN be done people.. you just have to have discipline.
The biggest lesson learned - FILE YOUR HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION! I waited too long to do this and got burned by my mortgage payment for the last year. That, however, has changed and our new payment is $300 less than it was before, freeing up that much more in the budget for the debt snowball. It is probably good timing because of the ongoing medical treatments the girls will need, but with insurance hopefully covering everything, we should be in good shape.
The next thing on the radar is a couple small medical debts and the Van being paid off. I'll be sure to update this more frequently as we knock down more debts. It CAN be done people.. you just have to have discipline.
Friday, October 30, 2009
Finances are Spooky
Ok, that was a lame attempt at Halloween humor, but things were a bit scary there for the last couple months. We had built up quite the backlog of medical bills, but I am glad to say that I was able to work out payment plans with ALL of the providers without having to incur any new debt to do so.
I also got some decent news over the last couple months -- the big one being getting a rather generous staged raise between now and January 1st. The first part of it was effective this month, and while I've only had two paychecks with the extra money, the effects are already starting to become apparent. In January, the next phase kicks in. This is awesome not only that it is extra money, but the total between my raises and all of the money that I've been able to free up by cutting lifestyle equates to about what our old house payment used to be :). The realization that you have managed to gain basically a mortgage payment is a very good one indeed.
With the payment plans I've got in place and the extra money coming in now, I've got a great outlook for how the rest of 2009 will go and how 2010 will turn out. I'm already starting to get panicked calls from creditors about my balances going away. I've got a 0% interest medical loan that I've just about paid off. When it got to be about 5 months away from being paid off, they have been calling me once a week with "good news" that I've got money available that they will gladly give me -- at 24% interest. No thanks :). By the way, making sure they only have my Google Voice number is awesome. It makes it easy to ignore them :).
I also got some decent news over the last couple months -- the big one being getting a rather generous staged raise between now and January 1st. The first part of it was effective this month, and while I've only had two paychecks with the extra money, the effects are already starting to become apparent. In January, the next phase kicks in. This is awesome not only that it is extra money, but the total between my raises and all of the money that I've been able to free up by cutting lifestyle equates to about what our old house payment used to be :). The realization that you have managed to gain basically a mortgage payment is a very good one indeed.
With the payment plans I've got in place and the extra money coming in now, I've got a great outlook for how the rest of 2009 will go and how 2010 will turn out. I'm already starting to get panicked calls from creditors about my balances going away. I've got a 0% interest medical loan that I've just about paid off. When it got to be about 5 months away from being paid off, they have been calling me once a week with "good news" that I've got money available that they will gladly give me -- at 24% interest. No thanks :). By the way, making sure they only have my Google Voice number is awesome. It makes it easy to ignore them :).
Tuesday, August 11, 2009
Whew... Can I get off this ride yet?
Ok, so I've been quiet on here for a bit, but that's because I've been holding on for dear life trying not to get flung off this marry-go-round of disaster. In July, our insurance reset, so we got another $500 put into an account and $1000 put into our Flex Spending account to last through the end of the year. By 7/31, all $1500 of that money was gone and we are just about through our deductible (of $3000). Granted, it started a bit lower because of the first 6 months of the year, but still :).
Then, to top it all off, Piper had to get some dental work done and because the Dentist lied about taking our insurance, we owe $591. Sure, they can "take" it and send the claim in, but for the things that are actually covered, it is at 60/40 instead of 80/20. Also, because they are out of network, other things cost a bit more. When I confronted them about this, they simply said "oh yeah, we're not in the network because they make us charge less." No kidding... you don't say?
So, here is my nastygram against "Pediatric & Adolescent Dentistry" in Carmel, Indiana. We saw Dr. Laura Brinson Grahm, who actually is a great Dentist, but her business practices are complete crap. The other dentist in that practice is Dr. Rebecca Stuart Donnelson. I'm not sure of her competency, but I still insist that no one do business with them, and if you do currently, please stop :). And for Google's sake, here's some more information in hopes this gets indexed: Address: 13450 N Meridian St. Suite 363 Carmel, Indiana 46032. Phone: 317-846-5893.
Thanks to the wonderful freedom of speech we all have, they can't force me to take this down either, so eat it :). Stating that you can process Delta Dental isn't the same as being in network, and you need to make that clear to patients in need of semi-emergency work.
I've officially got the Vibe listed in hopes of selling that and paying off another year old hospital bill. I've actually got someone coming to look at it tomorrow. They've contacted me before and from the first email I'm sure they are going to low ball me, but we'll see how things go.
What I really need to do is stumble into about $30,000 somehow. That would make things much easier to deal with (and get a few predatory lenders out of our lives). I'd still have a ways to go, but it would be at least a bit more doable. At least my beater is running strong, and I got the AC somewhat fixed too -- so I'm not losing 20 lbs of water during my drive home everyday :).
Let this be a lesson -- Debt is bad, and even worse when you don't have an emergency fund and actually have a couple long term medical conditions to take care of. Cut the cards... live within your means.
Then, to top it all off, Piper had to get some dental work done and because the Dentist lied about taking our insurance, we owe $591. Sure, they can "take" it and send the claim in, but for the things that are actually covered, it is at 60/40 instead of 80/20. Also, because they are out of network, other things cost a bit more. When I confronted them about this, they simply said "oh yeah, we're not in the network because they make us charge less." No kidding... you don't say?
So, here is my nastygram against "Pediatric & Adolescent Dentistry" in Carmel, Indiana. We saw Dr. Laura Brinson Grahm, who actually is a great Dentist, but her business practices are complete crap. The other dentist in that practice is Dr. Rebecca Stuart Donnelson. I'm not sure of her competency, but I still insist that no one do business with them, and if you do currently, please stop :). And for Google's sake, here's some more information in hopes this gets indexed: Address: 13450 N Meridian St. Suite 363 Carmel, Indiana 46032. Phone: 317-846-5893.
Thanks to the wonderful freedom of speech we all have, they can't force me to take this down either, so eat it :). Stating that you can process Delta Dental isn't the same as being in network, and you need to make that clear to patients in need of semi-emergency work.
I've officially got the Vibe listed in hopes of selling that and paying off another year old hospital bill. I've actually got someone coming to look at it tomorrow. They've contacted me before and from the first email I'm sure they are going to low ball me, but we'll see how things go.
What I really need to do is stumble into about $30,000 somehow. That would make things much easier to deal with (and get a few predatory lenders out of our lives). I'd still have a ways to go, but it would be at least a bit more doable. At least my beater is running strong, and I got the AC somewhat fixed too -- so I'm not losing 20 lbs of water during my drive home everyday :).
Let this be a lesson -- Debt is bad, and even worse when you don't have an emergency fund and actually have a couple long term medical conditions to take care of. Cut the cards... live within your means.
Friday, July 24, 2009
Bills Are From Mythology
I swear, bills are really a new form of Hydra. You cut one head off, and three more grow up in its place. Things have been rather interesting around here lately :).
First off, I'm driving the Grand Am as my daily driver (finally), and am getting ready to prep the Vibe for sale. I've even managed to pay off one of the many medical bills we had laying around. The downside, however is that I've incurred about twice what that one was (on another payment plan), and will be having to pay for a MRI soon. THEN, the Max (one of our dogs), began trying to scratch his brain out of his cheek, so we had to take him to the vet. Some shaving, treatment, antibiotics, lamp shade, and $160 later, he's all better. Poor guy, he looked so pitiful for the first day :).
The icing on the cake is the wonder that is increasing property taxes. Due to the recent changes around here, our house payment is going to go up about $200 -- effectively undoing some of what I've been driving toward with freeing up cash flow. If I can sell the vibe and use the proceeds to pay off another medical loan, then I'll be back up $300 a month. With the Van edging in on the $3000 mark, it should be one of the next things to go. Speaking of the Van, I had to get some work done on it which cost a bit. The good news is that I got the Tires for Life deal on it when I bought it, so I'll be getting a new set of tires here soon. The bad news is that to keep the deal, I've got to get it aligned (understandable), which will run about $150. :)
I did get a letter in the mail today from a Pontiac dealer, however. They are looking for Vibes (I guess people have been asking for them). Since they know I have one, they are offering to buy it because they are low on inventory. They're also offering more than what I owe on it, and I could possibly get more out of them -- so that is kind of cool. It would be nice to be able to sell it and get pretty close to what I want without the hassle of actually having to deal with people :).
Anyhow, I'm off for now. The next update will probably be what happens with the car. Stay tuned :)
First off, I'm driving the Grand Am as my daily driver (finally), and am getting ready to prep the Vibe for sale. I've even managed to pay off one of the many medical bills we had laying around. The downside, however is that I've incurred about twice what that one was (on another payment plan), and will be having to pay for a MRI soon. THEN, the Max (one of our dogs), began trying to scratch his brain out of his cheek, so we had to take him to the vet. Some shaving, treatment, antibiotics, lamp shade, and $160 later, he's all better. Poor guy, he looked so pitiful for the first day :).
The icing on the cake is the wonder that is increasing property taxes. Due to the recent changes around here, our house payment is going to go up about $200 -- effectively undoing some of what I've been driving toward with freeing up cash flow. If I can sell the vibe and use the proceeds to pay off another medical loan, then I'll be back up $300 a month. With the Van edging in on the $3000 mark, it should be one of the next things to go. Speaking of the Van, I had to get some work done on it which cost a bit. The good news is that I got the Tires for Life deal on it when I bought it, so I'll be getting a new set of tires here soon. The bad news is that to keep the deal, I've got to get it aligned (understandable), which will run about $150. :)
I did get a letter in the mail today from a Pontiac dealer, however. They are looking for Vibes (I guess people have been asking for them). Since they know I have one, they are offering to buy it because they are low on inventory. They're also offering more than what I owe on it, and I could possibly get more out of them -- so that is kind of cool. It would be nice to be able to sell it and get pretty close to what I want without the hassle of actually having to deal with people :).
Anyhow, I'm off for now. The next update will probably be what happens with the car. Stay tuned :)
Wednesday, May 27, 2009
It has been a LONG month...
Indeed, it has been a long month. Nothing seemed to be going right in the midst of getting beat down by bills, but I have a plan that might do the trick.
Basically, I'm going hardcore and have been getting rid of services and picking things to sell to try to get extra money and to reduce monthly outlay. The latest victims? DirecTV and Vonage. Most of our entertainment comes from Xbox Live and network TV, so the DirecTV had to go. I dropped Vonage and went back to a basic line just so that the alarm has something to use.
The next step will be to get rid of my car. I'm currently looking to pay cash for something around $1500 or so. The idea is that by spending $1500, I can free up roughly $6800 in debt and get rid of about $300 a month in monthly obligations (depending on what I can get for the vibe, of course.)
I've also been working like crazy in a second job to help fund the car plan, so hopefully this will fall into place soon. I'll keep you updated on how it is going when I get the snowball rolling.
Basically, I'm going hardcore and have been getting rid of services and picking things to sell to try to get extra money and to reduce monthly outlay. The latest victims? DirecTV and Vonage. Most of our entertainment comes from Xbox Live and network TV, so the DirecTV had to go. I dropped Vonage and went back to a basic line just so that the alarm has something to use.
The next step will be to get rid of my car. I'm currently looking to pay cash for something around $1500 or so. The idea is that by spending $1500, I can free up roughly $6800 in debt and get rid of about $300 a month in monthly obligations (depending on what I can get for the vibe, of course.)
I've also been working like crazy in a second job to help fund the car plan, so hopefully this will fall into place soon. I'll keep you updated on how it is going when I get the snowball rolling.
Monday, April 20, 2009
Ode to Being Busy
I apologize if I haven't been keeping up with this as much as I should, but I've actually been busy with a lot of side work to pay for the mess I'm about to describe.
A few posts back, I mentioned getting an 18 month loan at 0% for some medical expenses we've racked up at a local hospital. Well, as of right now, I've paid off just about $1000 of that bill, and have about another $1000 in forthcoming expenses. I've actually been trying to pay the loan and the extra bills in tandem, but I just can't afford to do that anymore. I'm going to try to see if I can increase the credit line a bit and tack the new ones onto my previous loan. It shouldn't raise the monthly bill TOO much, but it will still be very close on the budget. Here's to hoping nothing catastrophic happens (yes, my emergency fund is depleted now too...).
My Father-in-Law wants us to go to Texas for Christmas and is hounding us to figure out if we're coming or not, but the way things look, I don't think we can go -- and all for the sake of money. I'd basically have to start saving what I'm paying in medical bills now to have the cash to go, but since we have the bills and the budget is too tight with them, I'm not sure how that is going to happen. To anyone out there reading this who don't have debt, DON'T GET ANY. Or if you have to, keep it under 25% of your gross. When you lose one person working, it really taxes things. I went from having a few hundred extra a month to put toward debt to going in the red every month. Not a fun place to be.
Looks like I've got a lot more side work ahead of me...
A few posts back, I mentioned getting an 18 month loan at 0% for some medical expenses we've racked up at a local hospital. Well, as of right now, I've paid off just about $1000 of that bill, and have about another $1000 in forthcoming expenses. I've actually been trying to pay the loan and the extra bills in tandem, but I just can't afford to do that anymore. I'm going to try to see if I can increase the credit line a bit and tack the new ones onto my previous loan. It shouldn't raise the monthly bill TOO much, but it will still be very close on the budget. Here's to hoping nothing catastrophic happens (yes, my emergency fund is depleted now too...).
My Father-in-Law wants us to go to Texas for Christmas and is hounding us to figure out if we're coming or not, but the way things look, I don't think we can go -- and all for the sake of money. I'd basically have to start saving what I'm paying in medical bills now to have the cash to go, but since we have the bills and the budget is too tight with them, I'm not sure how that is going to happen. To anyone out there reading this who don't have debt, DON'T GET ANY. Or if you have to, keep it under 25% of your gross. When you lose one person working, it really taxes things. I went from having a few hundred extra a month to put toward debt to going in the red every month. Not a fun place to be.
Looks like I've got a lot more side work ahead of me...
Thursday, April 2, 2009
Fun With Stimulus
I just got my first paycheck containing our tax cuts. Yes ladies and gets, I'm now the proud recipient of a whopping $33 more dollars a paycheck. Seriously? That's almost not worth the effort of updating Quicken and re-doing budgets. But hey, I'll take what I can get considering how we are going to be screwed later with other hidden taxes.
Things have been a bit rough around the house lately. We still have medical bills trickling in, so my monthly budget is still getting beat down. That, coupled with Terra not working anymore has made things tough. The extra $33 helps, but still doesn't mitigate the problem, just makes it a bit less of a problem.
I've actually been trying a lot harder these days to pick up side work, and finally landed a decent one last night. It involved making a co-op website for 2-4 companies so I think it will probably be a pretty stable gig worth a decent amount of billable hours. I'm going to be billing it out in chunks to hopefully help with the cash flow nightmare I keep getting caught in.
I did realize last night that I probably need to look into quarterly taxes now as well. Before, my side stuff really didn't amount to much and when I turned it in, I was never penalized. This job though, could be worth enough that I might get fined if I don't turn in some sort of taxes on it. I haven't ever had to do something like this before, so I'm not quite sure where to turn. Looks like it may be time to consult one of Dave's ELPs to figure out what to do :).
Anyhow, that's what we've been doing lately -- treading water. My main problem now is time. Working full time, and doing this side stuff is very taxing. I still have some other projects I want to do, but they won't necessarily be bringing in a lot of cash right away. Gotta concentrate my efforts on what will pay the most, even though they aren't on the top of my "this would be cool/fun" list.
Things have been a bit rough around the house lately. We still have medical bills trickling in, so my monthly budget is still getting beat down. That, coupled with Terra not working anymore has made things tough. The extra $33 helps, but still doesn't mitigate the problem, just makes it a bit less of a problem.
I've actually been trying a lot harder these days to pick up side work, and finally landed a decent one last night. It involved making a co-op website for 2-4 companies so I think it will probably be a pretty stable gig worth a decent amount of billable hours. I'm going to be billing it out in chunks to hopefully help with the cash flow nightmare I keep getting caught in.
I did realize last night that I probably need to look into quarterly taxes now as well. Before, my side stuff really didn't amount to much and when I turned it in, I was never penalized. This job though, could be worth enough that I might get fined if I don't turn in some sort of taxes on it. I haven't ever had to do something like this before, so I'm not quite sure where to turn. Looks like it may be time to consult one of Dave's ELPs to figure out what to do :).
Anyhow, that's what we've been doing lately -- treading water. My main problem now is time. Working full time, and doing this side stuff is very taxing. I still have some other projects I want to do, but they won't necessarily be bringing in a lot of cash right away. Gotta concentrate my efforts on what will pay the most, even though they aren't on the top of my "this would be cool/fun" list.
Monday, February 23, 2009
Things Just Keep Getting Interesting
A lot of things have happened since I last posted. Basically, due to the girls' health concerns, my wife had to quit her job to keep the kids out of day care. Needless to say this has severely upset the budget. I think I've got things lined back out, but there isn't any room for extra payments on anything which is depressing. I've been taking up side work to get extra money to help pay on this stuff. So far, I've been able to make about $1300 since this all went down -- so lets hope I can keep this up this year.
During this we did have a couple bright spots though. Some friends of ours pooled together money to give us some cash and a bunch of gift cards to groceries and supermarkets. All in all, we got a few hundred dollars, so we're putting that to good use getting food and trying to make it stretch it as far as we can.
I ended up just banking all of my tax return (which was off by $1500...stupid turbo tax). I'm going to use that to pay off the new medical bills I talked about in my last post(which have started to come in btw), and use the rest to pay down our hospital loan after the dust settles.
Friendly reminder: if anyone wants to help out you can do so with the paypal link to the right :).
During this we did have a couple bright spots though. Some friends of ours pooled together money to give us some cash and a bunch of gift cards to groceries and supermarkets. All in all, we got a few hundred dollars, so we're putting that to good use getting food and trying to make it stretch it as far as we can.
I ended up just banking all of my tax return (which was off by $1500...stupid turbo tax). I'm going to use that to pay off the new medical bills I talked about in my last post(which have started to come in btw), and use the rest to pay down our hospital loan after the dust settles.
Friendly reminder: if anyone wants to help out you can do so with the paypal link to the right :).
Saturday, January 31, 2009
Silverish lining?
Things are starting to look up I think. All but one of the claims I talked about last time have been paid, and the last one is just probably stuck in the red tape. We did confirm that both girls do have the genetic disorder, but at least we know what the problem is now.
Piper had a tube put back in, and I've seen a bit of what that will cost -- roughly $1000. The good news is we're already in the 80/20 part of our insurance, so we'll have the rest of the year to basically coast through stuff.
I JUST did my taxes, and between all the medical expenses and other things, we're going to be getting about $4,000 back. Combine that with the couple side jobs I've picked up, and I'll have just about $5,000 to tackle the latest round of medical bills. I SHOULD be able to pay off the $2500 loan for our last hospital stay, the $1200 or so for the tubes, and get our emergency fund back to $1000. After that stuff is all out of the way, I'll be able to be hitting an extra $150 on the van bringing that payment up to $340. At that rate, I'll only have about a year left to pay to get rid of it. Hopefully, I'll get some more side work between now and then to get rid of it faster :)
Piper had a tube put back in, and I've seen a bit of what that will cost -- roughly $1000. The good news is we're already in the 80/20 part of our insurance, so we'll have the rest of the year to basically coast through stuff.
I JUST did my taxes, and between all the medical expenses and other things, we're going to be getting about $4,000 back. Combine that with the couple side jobs I've picked up, and I'll have just about $5,000 to tackle the latest round of medical bills. I SHOULD be able to pay off the $2500 loan for our last hospital stay, the $1200 or so for the tubes, and get our emergency fund back to $1000. After that stuff is all out of the way, I'll be able to be hitting an extra $150 on the van bringing that payment up to $340. At that rate, I'll only have about a year left to pay to get rid of it. Hopefully, I'll get some more side work between now and then to get rid of it faster :)
Thursday, January 22, 2009
Health Care will be the Death of me...
To continue our fun medical saga...
We had a series of tests done a while back to try to figure out what was going on with Piper's immune system. Things went smoothly and we found out what we needed to. A few months after that, we decided to get Makenna tested for the same things to see if she had the same problems (so we could fix things before they got bad). After that test, we got a notice from the insurance saying it wasn't covered because it fell into the "experimental or investigational" category. That alone confused me, because aren't ALL tests "investigational"? If not, why do the test? :)
Anyhow, we had the lab and our doctor appeal the decision because it is actually medically necessary. One of the bits of ammunition I gave the most recent lab was that we had this done earlier, and we didn't have anything rejected from the first round.
Today, I got a bill from the first lab -- FOR $2500! Turns out they submitted everything to the old insurance, so it still hasn't been processed by Aetna. This is where I start to worry a bit with their "experimental or investigational" definition. ALL the tests they ran the first time would be "investigational" because we had no idea what was going on.
At least the first round of tests was set in by a specialist (infectious disease doc). The one that was rejected was just our pediatrician, so coming from a doc a bit higher up the food chain may help get everything covered.
This could get interesting.
We had a series of tests done a while back to try to figure out what was going on with Piper's immune system. Things went smoothly and we found out what we needed to. A few months after that, we decided to get Makenna tested for the same things to see if she had the same problems (so we could fix things before they got bad). After that test, we got a notice from the insurance saying it wasn't covered because it fell into the "experimental or investigational" category. That alone confused me, because aren't ALL tests "investigational"? If not, why do the test? :)
Anyhow, we had the lab and our doctor appeal the decision because it is actually medically necessary. One of the bits of ammunition I gave the most recent lab was that we had this done earlier, and we didn't have anything rejected from the first round.
Today, I got a bill from the first lab -- FOR $2500! Turns out they submitted everything to the old insurance, so it still hasn't been processed by Aetna. This is where I start to worry a bit with their "experimental or investigational" definition. ALL the tests they ran the first time would be "investigational" because we had no idea what was going on.
At least the first round of tests was set in by a specialist (infectious disease doc). The one that was rejected was just our pediatrician, so coming from a doc a bit higher up the food chain may help get everything covered.
This could get interesting.
Monday, January 19, 2009
New Year, New Budget
I finally got to see the net effect of my raise, which ended up being about and extra $160 a month -- not bad. We also decided to cut back on our lunch/weekend budget substantially which added another $120.
The main thing that is killing us is child care. Before, it was around $172 a Week, but we managed to get it down to $129 a week by having family watch the kids two days a week (1 - 3 days cost the same).
The net effect of all this shuffling is an increase of $480 a month in the budget. Some of this has been eaten up by car insurance because I can't afford to pay the lump sum this time around. If we can stick to this new budget, we should be able to make some headway. Really, if we can just suffer through this for about six months, we should start to open up some cash flow again.
Things are going to be tight this month though. I've had to pick up some side work just to make it through a couple unexpected (and forgotten about) bills. Our electric bill this time around was double what I was expecting ($370), and I had COMPLETELY forgotten about license plates -- another $250 or so. My goal is to start fresh in February and STICK TO THE BUDGET. We'll see how that goes. I'm sure there will be extra medical expenses of some sort creep up -- they always seem to :).
The main thing that is killing us is child care. Before, it was around $172 a Week, but we managed to get it down to $129 a week by having family watch the kids two days a week (1 - 3 days cost the same).
The net effect of all this shuffling is an increase of $480 a month in the budget. Some of this has been eaten up by car insurance because I can't afford to pay the lump sum this time around. If we can stick to this new budget, we should be able to make some headway. Really, if we can just suffer through this for about six months, we should start to open up some cash flow again.
Things are going to be tight this month though. I've had to pick up some side work just to make it through a couple unexpected (and forgotten about) bills. Our electric bill this time around was double what I was expecting ($370), and I had COMPLETELY forgotten about license plates -- another $250 or so. My goal is to start fresh in February and STICK TO THE BUDGET. We'll see how that goes. I'm sure there will be extra medical expenses of some sort creep up -- they always seem to :).
Tuesday, January 13, 2009
Murphy's at the Door
Just when you start heading down a good path, something has got to get in your way. That's where we are right now. I've completely fallen back to baby step 1 (getting $1000 in the bank) due to another round of medical expenses.
The good news is I did get a raise this year. I haven't gotten my first check with it on there so we can redo our budget, but the budget needs some serious work anyway. Aside from the new found problems, the budget was there to just cover all the bases, not to help us get ahead. The new challenge is to 1) fix the budget with new bills and new income and 2) build in extra to the budget to help pay things down.
I was really in a bad place last weekend just trying to figure out what the heck I was going to do to get out of this mess. I have a lot of things coming due all at once, and had drained the emergency fund due to other unforeseen medical expenses. I'm actually looking forward to doing my taxes because I'm going to be able to write off medical expenses this year. We had nearly $10,000 in medical expenses (most paid, some on credit cards, and some in loans). Subtract the $2000 flex spending account, and I'm still left with a healthy chunk to work with. Granted, you can only write off what is after 7% of your income, but that still leaves me with a few grand to write off :).
I'll probably sit down this weekend to redo my budget with the new numbers (I'll get my first check with the raise on the 15th), so I'll put an update here after I'm done. I know I'm going to have to cut things this time around, just not sure what is left to cut :(
The good news is I did get a raise this year. I haven't gotten my first check with it on there so we can redo our budget, but the budget needs some serious work anyway. Aside from the new found problems, the budget was there to just cover all the bases, not to help us get ahead. The new challenge is to 1) fix the budget with new bills and new income and 2) build in extra to the budget to help pay things down.
I was really in a bad place last weekend just trying to figure out what the heck I was going to do to get out of this mess. I have a lot of things coming due all at once, and had drained the emergency fund due to other unforeseen medical expenses. I'm actually looking forward to doing my taxes because I'm going to be able to write off medical expenses this year. We had nearly $10,000 in medical expenses (most paid, some on credit cards, and some in loans). Subtract the $2000 flex spending account, and I'm still left with a healthy chunk to work with. Granted, you can only write off what is after 7% of your income, but that still leaves me with a few grand to write off :).
I'll probably sit down this weekend to redo my budget with the new numbers (I'll get my first check with the raise on the 15th), so I'll put an update here after I'm done. I know I'm going to have to cut things this time around, just not sure what is left to cut :(
Saturday, November 15, 2008
November Update
Not much has been going on since I wrote last, aside from picking up some side work. Payments for our hospital bills will start in Dec at around 150 a month, so I've got THAT to look forward to :).
The side work I just did has just about replenished our emergency fund. The good news is that there is probably some more to be had there, so I'm hoping I get some more work from that client. In the mean time, I'm still working on that project I mentioned earlier. Hopefully I can make some progress with it and get it out for all of you wonderful people to try :). It will be a free service that is ad based, so hopefully it will do well. Actually, I really want to be able to sell ad space to people after it takes off (a bit more money there than google ads).
Here's to scheming!
The side work I just did has just about replenished our emergency fund. The good news is that there is probably some more to be had there, so I'm hoping I get some more work from that client. In the mean time, I'm still working on that project I mentioned earlier. Hopefully I can make some progress with it and get it out for all of you wonderful people to try :). It will be a free service that is ad based, so hopefully it will do well. Actually, I really want to be able to sell ad space to people after it takes off (a bit more money there than google ads).
Here's to scheming!
Friday, October 17, 2008
Medical Bills Are Fun - Update 2
Good news!!
We got approved for the 0% financing for 18 months. I've got the paperwork here to sign and send back, but this is good. I don't have to take out money from any other credit lines and get screwed in the process. Sure, this will slow down our snowball a bit, but that's ok. In the grand scheme of medical expenses, this is minor :).
I'm actually working on a fun side project that has some serious potential after I get it up and running. I'll keep you all posted on the progress :).
We got approved for the 0% financing for 18 months. I've got the paperwork here to sign and send back, but this is good. I don't have to take out money from any other credit lines and get screwed in the process. Sure, this will slow down our snowball a bit, but that's ok. In the grand scheme of medical expenses, this is minor :).
I'm actually working on a fun side project that has some serious potential after I get it up and running. I'll keep you all posted on the progress :).
Tuesday, October 7, 2008
Medical Bills Are Fun - Update 1
Well, there is a silver lining. I called the hospital to try to negotiate the bill down some if I paid them in one lump. They said that since they already discounted it from insurance they couldn't discount it again -- Whatever :). I'm sure that if I was able to prove I had no ability to pay they would drop it down some -- but that's a rant for another time.
I did find out that even though they have a couple different payment plans, the one I'm going to apply for has 0% for 18 months. This is actually a pretty sweet deal. Sure, I'm taking on more debt, but I'm not getting hit with any interest. If i did the same thing with my line of credit, I'd be paying nearly 10% on the money for an indefinite amount of time since it is the last on my snowball. With the payments on this being split to 18 months, it makes it a reasonable $139 a month. I've got more than that dedicated to the snowball, so it is going to all be piled on this debt. I should be able to pay this off in about 13 months if I can stick to it.
After that is paid off, then I'll have about another 13 months to go on the Van, so I should be able to knock out two major debts in 26 months. I really sucks thinking about things like that, but I made this bed, so I've got to sleep in it. Thankfully, after I get some traction going the rest will go fairly quickly.
On a side note, I've already burned through $1200 of my $2000 FSA... in 2.5 months. This thing is going to be burned out well before the year until it resets. Hopefully the coming months won't be nearly as taxing as the last year has been with medical expenses.
I did find out that even though they have a couple different payment plans, the one I'm going to apply for has 0% for 18 months. This is actually a pretty sweet deal. Sure, I'm taking on more debt, but I'm not getting hit with any interest. If i did the same thing with my line of credit, I'd be paying nearly 10% on the money for an indefinite amount of time since it is the last on my snowball. With the payments on this being split to 18 months, it makes it a reasonable $139 a month. I've got more than that dedicated to the snowball, so it is going to all be piled on this debt. I should be able to pay this off in about 13 months if I can stick to it.
After that is paid off, then I'll have about another 13 months to go on the Van, so I should be able to knock out two major debts in 26 months. I really sucks thinking about things like that, but I made this bed, so I've got to sleep in it. Thankfully, after I get some traction going the rest will go fairly quickly.
On a side note, I've already burned through $1200 of my $2000 FSA... in 2.5 months. This thing is going to be burned out well before the year until it resets. Hopefully the coming months won't be nearly as taxing as the last year has been with medical expenses.
Saturday, October 4, 2008
Medical Bills Are Fun
Remember back when I was talking about our hospital visit that we never got billed for? Well, the nice folks over there must have figured out they never billed us and sent us one -- for the expected amount of around $2,500.
I definitely don't have enough in the emergency fund to cover this (or to really begin to cover it), so I'm left with two choices. Get a personal loan to cover it, or use a line of credit I already have available to cover it. In dealing with hospitals in the past, they will usually allow for 3-4 months of payments to be made without interest, but if you need more time than that they insist you go with an outside credit agency of some sort. Since I can't afford an extra $600 a month (blasted current debts), I'm forced to go the route of financing this expense.
I suppose the route I go all depends on the interest rate and terms of the loan I might be able to get. My line of credit is set for 9 years at 9.9% interest. Technically, this is the last thing on my debt snowball, so this $2,500 will be lingering for a while. On the flip side, a separate loan I would get would most likely be on the 3-5 year term and add about as much to my monthly payments as the increase on the line of credit. The only downside to that plan is that this new debt would be at the bottom of my snowball, and would take president over my lowest item now. This in theory should make it go away faster, but then again, it will push off the current loan I am working on eliminating for another couple years. come to think of it, that loan will probably be gone in two years if I keep paying the minimums.
I'm still not sure what to do, but I am leaning toward getting a separate loan. sure, It is a bit psychologically defeating to know I'll be "taking a step back", but then again, I should be getting a raise soon and that will help knock this stuff out.
So yes, Medical Bills are fun. Fun indeed....
I definitely don't have enough in the emergency fund to cover this (or to really begin to cover it), so I'm left with two choices. Get a personal loan to cover it, or use a line of credit I already have available to cover it. In dealing with hospitals in the past, they will usually allow for 3-4 months of payments to be made without interest, but if you need more time than that they insist you go with an outside credit agency of some sort. Since I can't afford an extra $600 a month (blasted current debts), I'm forced to go the route of financing this expense.
I suppose the route I go all depends on the interest rate and terms of the loan I might be able to get. My line of credit is set for 9 years at 9.9% interest. Technically, this is the last thing on my debt snowball, so this $2,500 will be lingering for a while. On the flip side, a separate loan I would get would most likely be on the 3-5 year term and add about as much to my monthly payments as the increase on the line of credit. The only downside to that plan is that this new debt would be at the bottom of my snowball, and would take president over my lowest item now. This in theory should make it go away faster, but then again, it will push off the current loan I am working on eliminating for another couple years. come to think of it, that loan will probably be gone in two years if I keep paying the minimums.
I'm still not sure what to do, but I am leaning toward getting a separate loan. sure, It is a bit psychologically defeating to know I'll be "taking a step back", but then again, I should be getting a raise soon and that will help knock this stuff out.
So yes, Medical Bills are fun. Fun indeed....
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